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EA Buys Exclusive NFL License Making it the only game in town for real pro football. | |
By David Smith
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| Electronic Arts has secured an exclusive license to the players, teams, and stadiums of the National Football League, the publisher announced today. As a consequence, EA's titles may be the only officially licensed NFL football games on the market for the five-year duration of the deal.
Terms of the deal were not disclosed. A report from the Street & Smith's Sports Business Journal in May, which suggested that an NFL exclusivity deal might be in the offing, speculated that Electronic Arts might be interested in paying as much as $1 billion for the right deal.
According to EA's announcement, the only exception to the deal covers Internet and wireless games (such as those published by THQ). Otherwise, the agreements cover "action simulation, arcade-style, and manager games on the PC, handheld game devices, and consoles -- including console online features."
"For the first time," EA's announcement states, "all aspects of the interactive experience -- including console-based fantasy football features and handheld game devices -- will be fully integrated within one EA game," suggesting that players of EA's console simulations will be able to enjoy handheld connectivity and fantasy football features when the next season rolls around.
"The five-year agreements will usher NFL fans through the console technology transition with new ideas and innovative game play experiences," said EA CEO Larry Probst.
In addition, Probst told Reuters news service that EA plans to use the deal to expand beyond the Madden and Street franchises. "You can imagine that there will be additional products in different genres than the pure simulation game and the arcade genre," he said.
Finding itself locked out of the vital license to the NFL players, teams, and stadiums could be a fatal blow to Visual Concepts' resurgent ESPN-licensed football titles, which gained significant ground in market share this season on the strength of their $19.99 price point.
The move to undercut EA's pricing, part of a new co-publishing campaign undertaken by Sega and Take-Two interactive, boosted unit sales of ESPN NFL 2K5 by several times in comparison to last year's Visual Concepts football game, and pushed EA to drop the price of Madden NFL 2005 in response.
Take-Two slammed the exclusivity deal in a statement released shortly after EA's announcement today. "We believe that the decisions of the National Football League and Players Inc. to grant an exclusive license for videogames do a tremendous disservice to the consumers and sports fans, whose funds ultimately support the NFL, by limiting their choices, curbing creativity, and almost certainly leading to higher game prices," it said.
However, Take-Two also downplayed the deal's impact on its business: "While sports games in general are an important part of Take-Two's product diversification strategy, the licensed NFL game we distributed on behalf of Sega this year was not a material contributor to our profitability to date, nor was it expected to be a meaningful contributor in the upcoming year.?? We remain committed to continued diversification of our product portfolio, including sports."
EA has picked up exclusive licenses to other sports leagues before -- the NASCAR stock-car racing circuit, the PGA Tour -- but never at such direct expense to a competitor.
In theory, Sega could sub-license the NFL properties from EA for its games, but it's not clear whether either party would be interested in brokering such a deal. Legal action once forced Konami to sub-license a sports property to its competitors, when it secured an exclusive license to the Japanese professional baseball league in 1999, but for obvious reasons, that precedent doesn't necessarily apply. |
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Exclusivity in gaming really sucks. There are a lot of gamers who have to spend a lot of extra money already, and now something like this? There are people who wouldn't have bought the X-Box, or the Gamecube, if it weren't for exclusive titles. I can understand it from a business standpoint, but it doesn't mean I have to like it. PlanetZebes38334.8754166667
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yeah this pretty much sucks
im an espn gamer, i just dont like madden ( i even buy it every year and try it)
this is sad--
but the good news!
Midway has hired the writer of the show "Playmakers" to develop a new title, Blitz: Playmakers. The game will feature everything the NFL hated about the TV show, including drug use, and off-the-field habits the NFL likes to pretend never happens.
I am a total SEGA loser :)
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12/14/2004 6:38:30 AM
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It really sucks for me - the NFL2K series was all that I would play,
since the Dreamcast! I liked the faster paced action - it was
more of a party football game than any other, save NFL Blitz, which is
also hosed by this deal.
NFL2K series properly supported 4 players, too. You didn't really
feel like a third wheel when playing. The graphics were better,
and this year, you really can't beat the price.
This pisses me off.
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12/14/2004 6:41:41 AM
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madden was king on genesis and ps1, but ive been all sega sports since the DC. ya i buy , madden each year to try it but like i said i sell it cause it just doesnt feel like im in control of the game...
i guess ill just play espn2k5 for another year. and im sure EA will crank the price up to $55-$65 too
scumbags
I am a total SEGA loser :)
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[QUOTE=PlanetZebes] Exclusivity in gaming really sucks. There are a lot of gamers who have to spend a lot of extra money already, and now something like this? There are people who wouldn't have bought the X-Box, or the Gamecube, if it weren't for exclusive titles. I can understand it from a business standpoint, but it doesn't mean I have to like it. [/QUOTE]
WHOA- wait a minute. Let's not get mixed up here- Nintendo CREATED the properties it owns. Shiggy INVENTED Mario, therefore he owns him. EA did NOT create the NFL, therefore they SHOULD NOT have any legal right to a monopoly based on the franchise. Any judge can tell that, as could the FTC, if SEGA decides to persue either of those options, which they damn well should.
Now, I'm a die-hard SEGA fan, so I'm uncharacteristically OFF the fence here, but I don't think there's any argument- EA stepped over the line, and they will have to be whipped back in line, just like Wal-Mart and Microsoft before them....
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Uhm no. NFL properties is just like any other piece of intelectual property. If they want to sign an exclusive contract with a company to produce material based on their intelectual property than that is their right. I understand that this is an unpopular decision but lets not get all up about intelectual property rights and what not, its way too complicated.
There are tons of reason why this is a bad decision but its not anywhere near illegal or 'a monopoly' there is no ruling that coud be made that can force the NFL to let any company make a game based on NFL teams and players. They are well within their limits to make this decision. If I wanted to make a game with NFL players and teams in it where the players murdered each other with shotguns they would have every right to tell me to jump off a bridge. This is, by extension the same thing, they are saying that one company can make games with their trademarks and other companies can't. Its not illegal. I can't imagine that this is a good decision for the NFL because I would imagine that multiple revenue streams licsening their property would result in them making money, unless EA is offering a % base of sales to the NFL or something, they will probably lose money on the deal.
There was some talk on another board that the NFL might have done this specifically for the reason i mentioned above. There was short lived TV show on ESPN or ESPN2 about NFL players and teams that featured drug use and what not and the NFL disliked it, supposedly Midway was interested in making a Blitz game based on that show and the NFL did not like that idea, so they were itnerested in preventing it.
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[QUOTE=pixelSHREDDER]
WHOA- wait a minute. Let's not get mixed up here- Nintendo CREATED the properties it owns. Shiggy INVENTED Mario, therefore he owns him. EA did NOT create the NFL, therefore they SHOULD NOT have any legal right to a monopoly based on the franchise.
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Wait. Nobody said ANYTHING about Mario, Zelda, Metroid, or any other Nintendo branded franchise. I was referring more to instances like Tecmo's Ninja Gaiden on the X-Box, or Square-Enix's Final Fantasies on the Playstations. I stated clearly that I understand it from a business standpoint, but there are a lot of gamers that would have loved to play a game like Chrystal Chronicles, without having to buy a Gamecube. I'm not whining that "it's not fair", because I have all three major consoles, but I only have all three so I wouldn't miss any exclusive titles. The only titles I own for my GCN are exclusive titles, Like Metroid Prime, Super Smash Brothers Melee, etc, and I'm all for that. But this EA games thing, just sucks.
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[QUOTE=fishbulb] unless EA is offering a % base of sales to the NFL or something, they will probably lose money on the deal.[/QUOTE]
I am thinking that the NFL's got a pretty solid team of a thousand or so people who's job it is to figure out whether they will make more money with or without the EA deal. And you are right, it is the NFL's business who they sign deals with.
And for what its worth, I think this is a raw deal for gamers. So much for competition.Ash21638337.2188773148
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[QUOTE=Ash216] [QUOTE=fishbulb] unless EA is offering a % base of sales to the NFL or something, they will probably lose money on the deal.[/QUOTE]
I am thinking that the NFL's got a pretty solid team of a thousand or so people who's job it is to figure out whether they will make more money with or without the EA deal. And you are right, it is the NFL's business who they sign deals with.
And for what its worth, I think this is a raw deal for gamers. So much for competition.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, I agree, but like I said, there is talk that they might have done it for other reasons, of course thats pretty 'crazy conspiracy nuts' talk, but I've never been one to not wear the tinfoil hat.
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Well I guess its better that EA got the license than...say...microsoft.
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Lol yeah like I said I'm a diehard SEGA fan, so my opinion here is therefoere warped and invalid....
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Wow 989 Sports must be quaking in their boots right now. Although, I think this might mean good things for the sports genre. When I was working for SCEA/989 I really felt they were crippled by making a serious football game, the same friggin game they had made since 92. Now that they A) no longer have to shell out the millions for the NFL liscense. B) are free to make up their own football team names or even rules, they might end up with a decent game that is actually fun to play and makes them some money.
I'm hoping the compeating companies come up with some really creative ideas for football games to combat this. Just because they can't use team names and player names dosen't mean they can't make a damn fine football game.
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Hey, they could've just done that on their own if they really wanted to....
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I think this sucks if you ask me. I enjoy the competition between Sega and EA because it makes them keep improving their franchises. This means EA can pump out shit if they want and it'll still sell because there's people who will buy and play it no matter what just to play as their favorite player or team.
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UPDATE - Check out this press release.
EA Sports is now the only company that can make NFL, AFL, or COLLEGE football games.
Wow.
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OK that does it. If the gloves don't come off now from the other gaming companies, things are gonna get ugly. I'm not talking about buying up even more prperties- I'm talking about stepping in and filing a class-action anti-trust suit against EA- this is flat-out monopolizing, and innocent companies could pay the ultimate price because of it (how the HELL can Sega hope to post any profits now???!!@!)
I'll say this, though: if EA succeeds in aquiring Ubi-Soft, it'll be the beginning of the end of gaming as we know it.
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Tell me about it Pixel. I can see it coming already EA is turning into the Microsoft of videogames. I could see the NFL, but now their even taking college Football to. What's gonna be next an exclusive deal for the NBA to. If that happens I'll really be pissed because NBA2K has been consistently better in my books then Live for the last 5 years.
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What was it you were saying about the RULES being copyrighted too, Toriko? I'd think that'd be more emphasized in the description of EA's new ownerships- unless it's supposed to be a dirty little secret that other developers won't find out about until they try making their own football games....
But hey, there's always lacrosse, right?
Right?
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[QUOTE=pixelSHREDDER]What was it you were saying about the RULES being
copyrighted too, Toriko? I'd think that'd be more emphasized in the
description of EA's new ownerships- unless it's supposed to be a dirty
little secret that other developers won't find out about until they try
making their own football games....
But hey, there's always lacrosse, right?
Right? [/QUOTE]
The EXACT rules, custom to the NFL, can be copyrighted. However,
the procedural rules of football cannot. So, there may be minor
differences in the ruleset that another developer creates, there
wouldn't be a whole heck of a lot.
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Here is today's scary thought:
WHAT IF EA BUILT A CONSOLE?
Think about it, they'd be unstoppable. They'd be the only system
that could play Football, so they'd have the entire American market
sewn up. They have MANY key movie licenses, and relationships in
place to make sure that others can't make licensed games.
Kind of an intriguing "what if", eh? I should work that thought up into a full fledged fear mongering article.
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Sounds a lot like Sony. Or Nintendo. Or Atari. Or even Sega.
Damn. I guess this business really is cyclical.
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Pixel - My friend a company that makes sports games (989 sports) told me how they were worried because the NFL deal had come with the rules. Like larson said, they can't copy the rules to football in general, but specific NFL and now college rules are off limits. Now, here's the problem. If a company makes a football game it isn't really spcified which rules are copywrited just "the NFL rules". How diffrent do you have to make your rules to avoid the suit? What if you just change one rule, like a safety is 3 points? Is that enough? Its so ambiguious, I'm not sure. EA could lock someone up in court for a long time though while a judge decided. They are evil.Toriko38454.4578703704
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